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- holy moly. - hey brett, you knowsomething, i made a mistake and didn't bring sun drop today. we're up in minnesotaand apparently i'm gonna have to have a littlechit chat with the people from sun drop because ididn't see any sun drop in the gas station or thebait shop this morning. - i'm sitting here tryingto imagine a day with larry smith without sun drop.
in the years since i'veknown you, i don't think that's possible. - yeah, this is alittle bit different. but, you know, i'll manage. see what happens. (light rock music) hey, welcome tolarry smith outdoors. i'll tell you todaywe're up in minnesota, and you know what,
- minnesota? - minnesota it is. you know what, and therewas no sun drop here in minnesota that ifound, so that was the only downfall so far. but guess what, we're fishingone of them destinations i've always wanted to go. and it's lake of the woods. this is a bass body of water.
we came out of the waterand i said to brett, you know what, holymoly, this looks like the great lakes. as far as i could see, icouldn't see any shorelines. hey, and you know what, we arefishing with our good buddy. brett king. and every time we fish withthis guy, i tell you what, i learn a tremendous amount. and you know what, whenit comes to fishing,
that's what it's all about. it's all about learning. hey brett, you knowwhat, what are we going to be doing today? - well we're gonnadeploy some down riggers, of all things. this is my favoriteplace in the world to fish in august, larry. this has a phenomenal bite,it's, i mean they call it
the walleye capitalof the world. - yeah, and i thoughtlake erie was the walleye capital of the world. - no, absolutely not. so there's no place i'drather be in august. - okay. - i was taught thistechnique from a wiley old veteran here, charter captain. - the owner of zippelbay resort, actually.
- zippel bay, okay. - so he kind of showed methe ins and outs of this down rigger thing. i caught a few fish yesterday. - i heard that you absolutelyhad some monsters yesterday. - it was a good day. - you had seven fishfor how much weight? - about 55 pounds. - whoa, them are, forthis time of year, but any
time of year, that's,them are some giant fish. and everything you caughtwas off of downriggers yesterday? - we caught a coupleof them on lead core, - you know, we'll dosome lead coring as well, but there's a lot ofstructure in this lake, just piles andpiles of rock reefs. and i like to spin the baits. i can do it very effectivelywith down riggers.
- okay, wow. i'm interested to seewhat happens today. you know again, this isjust a very unique body of water and i want to comeup here, not to get off track here, but i want tocome up here this winter and fish this. so maybe you and i are gonnahave to do a road cruise and come on up here becausei've heard nothing but crazy stories about theamount of fish that they catch
through the ice out here. all the bombardiers, allthe snow beers, you know. - it's just somethingyou have to see. - yeah it is. - one of them thingsyou have to do. - that's why i was soexcited about driving up here last night, and to fish this. so hey, let's put her down. put some down riggersdown, i want to learn how
to fish walleyeswith down riggers. - absolutely. - that sounds great. - hey stay tuned andlet's see what happens this morning hereout on the big pond of lake of the woods. - [narrator] the warriorstory continues with the best tracking, driestride in the industry. designed with a highdegree of dead rise and bow
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and to have a chance to wina trip with us here on larry smith outdoors, and a hardand soft water fishing kit, all you have to do issubmit that picture to the badgersportsman.com. (camera clicking sounds) - hey brett, how manyfeet back on this? - 40 feet. - 40 feet back, okay. yup, got our line counters here.
got the shimanoline counters today. you like these the best, brett? - [brett] yeah, they got a. - good drag system. okay, right there, 40foot back right there. - [brett] okay, i'llbe right there to help. - yep, you're good. - all right. so basically, you takethe line, grab it,
and pinch it right inhere, larry, like so. - [larry] right, and yougot it set pretty light? - it's fairly light. - [larry] okay. - so turn your clickeron, open your bail. set that in, and theni'm gonna clutch it down. we're in 31 feet, so i'mgonna go down about 20 feet. - [larry] where do you thinkthat bait's gonna be running, brett, how far off the bottomare you trying to achieve?
- i'm trying to keep itthree to five feet off the bottom. so when you get this allset right, i'll actually be able to see the ball on my. - [larry] on the locator, huh? - on the locator. so then we're just going toget a little load on the rod, - [larry] just like that, huh? - so now when a fish hitsit, it will trip the release
the rod will come up,larry get on this reel. - [larry] right away. - and just reel downon it, real fast. cause you do get a little bitof slack in there right away. what you want to see, youwant to see the rod go like this and then like this. - [larry] then you knowyou got a big girl. - then you knowyou got a big fish. - got a nice fish, i'mgonna grab the net for you.
you got time, i'mback there a ways. this one's actuallyon the lead line. - okay, how many feet backare you on that, brett? - 150. it's a pretty decentfish, i think. - [larry] you sure hit it nice. boy, didn't take long,once we got out here and got them lines down. you know, you can onlyrun one line here, right?
- one line per personin minnesota, always. - yep, we actually had tobuy brad a license this morning, the cameraguy, and he's gonna have to reel some fish in today, too. - yep, we'll lethim do that later. we're gonna make him sufferfor a while here, first. - [larry] yeah, good idea. now, what are you thinkingon the size of this fish. - [brett] it's probablya 17, 18 incher.
and there's a lot ofsauger in her, too. - there is, too. not big sauger, larry, notlike we see on the mississippi river by any stretch,but that's a nice mouth. - [larry] oh yeah, there'snothing wrong with that. good job mr. king. here we go. nice job. you wanna hold himup for the camera?
now what are the limitsfor guys that come up to lake of the woods to keep. i know you were talkingbefore on the ride out here, something about 19 1/2 inches. usually when you starttalking about slot limits, there's not much of a half. - no, and it's because you'reborder waters with canada, and they do the metricsystem, of course. so that's how theyland on 19 1/2
so you can have fourwalleyes, under 19 1/2 - four walleyes under 19 1/2. - you can keepone trophy over 28 - and then you can havetwo saugers as well, for a total of six. - six fish total. - there's no slot onthe saugers, either. so you can keep sixsaugers, if you want. but most guys will run out,get their four walleyes
and pull a couplesaugers to fill them in. - nice fish. - great eating fish right there. - good job, good job, brett. you know, brett thatwas a pretty nice fish. now that fish was just over 20, oh you got one, there you go. i'm the rigger. that fish was just over20, so we let that one go.
- ooh nice sauger. that one will eat well. - show everybody thedifference, i know most people know the difference betweena walleye and a sauger, but there is quitea bit of difference. on winebago, my homewater, you can only keep one sauger. that's it. so here, you can keep.
- you know thesaugers i'm used to. - [larry] you're usedto the monster saugers, - the big difference is,and he's posing beautiful, the dorsal fin. - [larry] whew. - big difference on thewalleyes and saugers right there is the dorsal fin, youcan see the spots in it. and then just thegeneral coloring. these are more greyishbrown, the charter captains
out here actuallycall these browns. - [larry] they call them browns. - you'll here them on theradio, we gotta go get our browns. so then no distinct whitetip on the tail like we're all used to with the walleyes. - [larry] right. - but that's a good eaterfor lake in the woods. - little fish fry tonight, huh?
everything just stopped idon't know what we to going on. i can't gain nothing. everything justabsolutely stopped. - [brett] you everseen a bad fish? - no, they're all good fish. (laughter) for one thing, brett,he ain't getting off. - [brett] i think wegot this one covered. (laughing)
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- hey brett, you know onthe way out here, you and brad were sitting up frontthere and it looked like, you know, i know thisboat and how they run, the run like crazy, buti see that you guys had a pretty good ride there. i'm looking at myselfand you guys are sitting on smooth moves seats and iwas on the back, without one. - [brett] kind ofselfish that way. - [larry] that is, i don'tknow if, i don't know if brad's
gonna be sitting on that smoothmoves seat on the way back. - i noticed you offeredfor him to move back. - to sit to the back. i tried to trick him, tellhim that it was a little bit better ride back here. you know, but i don't knowif he fell for it or not. - i don't think he did. (mumbles) for the record, i'venever spent a day with
you without sun drop. - right. - if you startconvulsing or something, i'm just gonna keep an eye out. - i was just puttingthe lead core back down and you were just sayingabout the blue one, i'm like, i mightchange this (mumbles) on this one, but i'll tellyou brett, now i'm not going to change it.
- [brett] that's a big walleye. - oh that is awalleye, nice walleye. i thought it was goingto be another sauger. now look how fat these fish are. - [brett] i know,they're eating well. - just chunky, chunky fish. and this ones bleedinglike a sieve, so obviously we'll probably end upboxing this one too, but the other great fish.
you know it didn't takelong, all of a sudden, really start marking a lot offish, like you said. tight to bottomand boom, game on. - these fish willmove every day. they'll shift around outhere in this mud every day. so it's kind of ahunt down method. when we get out on the reefsthis afternoon, it will be a little moremethodical, precise. - hey brett, now isee you're running two
downriggers and only one lead. now why not run twoleads and one downrigger. so what's, i mean,obviously you're leaning in a little bit harder, ifyou had three downriggers on this boat, would yourun three downriggers? - i probably would, larry, imean they're so much faster to deploy, i mean, we'refishing the deep basin right now so we're in33, 34 feet of water. to get down there,lead works really well.
but to get down there withlead, i gotta let out like 150 plus feet. - [larry] 150 feet,okay, that makes sense. - [brett] so the in andout of the lead is just a slow process, versuswith the downrigger, you know, i'm going out40 feet, clipping that, clipping the ball on, droppinganother 20 and we're fishing. - so it's basically thereason to run the downriggers right now is more so it'sthe distance, instead of
running all that, themdifferent colors of lead out, versus having 150 feetof line over, versus 40 feet of line. - right, and then you geta calmer day like this, i can spin immediatelywith just riggers up. - so you're saying, thatmakes a lot of sense if you're staying on some tightstructure, it's a lot easier to get that bait in the spotyou want it by having a short amount of line out.
that makes a lot of sense. - [brett] a little sauger. - [larry] little sauger. - [brett] i'll justflip this one in. - [brett] i literally justcracked the speed up on that throttle, it tripped. must have beenfollowing that bait. - that is a big thing, alot of times, you know that when it comes to trolling, andthat's why most of the time
you're trolling, you'returning left and right all the time and speeding up,slowing down the baits. - getting a little differentaction on that bait. - again a sauger. - and that, again, that's afair lake of the woods sauger. they just don't getreal big up here. - any idea why the sauger don't? it's got to be genetic. - must be thecolder, cooler water.
more for dinner. - so this fish ate the bait. and he obviously t-boned it. when i start catching themon the front hook like that, - [larry] you know yougot the right bait. - you got the right action,you're getting to the right color. when you're just missingthem consistently, they're just swatting atit, you'll lose those fish.
when i start seeingthis, that's when i know, i'm getting closerto the right bait. - [larry] makessense, lots of sense. - hey, welcome steve, theshotgun, schafer in the kitchen. if you don't recognize thiscowboy, he's at every fair. nico the gyro, or howdo you say it, nico? - gyro. - gyros. he is going to show us,we have pulled venison,
i already boiled. he's going to put someseasoning on it, we're gonna make gyros. seriously guys, if youhaven't had a gyro, nico's gonna make venison taste great. i took the top part and hindoff the deer, and it was five hours in the slowcooker, and it's just breaking apart. i left it like this,it's cooled down.
nico's gonna work with it. i'm gonna bring overthe beef broth, after he seasons it, we're gonnamake this for you guys. all right, nico, showus how to do this. - all right, so a realgyro's got lamb and beef mixed, but not a lot ofpeople can go to the store and buy that, so mostof the people watching this shoot deerand other critters. so what we're gonna dois take our meat here,
and the main ingredientsthat we're gonna need is balsamic, and cavenders. cavenders is an allpurpose greek seasoning. and you can put it on anything. - so that's the secretto all your stuff. - that's the secretto all this stuff. - so you're lettingevery one know. - i am letting everyone know. you can find it at walmartor any other grocery store.
that's no problem at all. you know, my big fat greekwedding, everyone says put windex on everything,that's not true. you put cavender'son everything. - and we're gonnaheat the pitas up. normally you would havewhat, a flat table you would put them in? - yeah, a flat grill, putthem on there, but most people don't have a flat grill,
this is the nextbest thing for that. and the key to making theconsistency of the bread right, once you see it start risinga little bit, that's when it's ready to get pulled out. - [steve] so we're gonnago pull the beef broth off the stove, bring it over here. you do your voodoo,i'll be right back. what we're going to do iswe're going to put our meat here, right in, rightin the pot here.
and then you're goingto put your cavenders right on top of it. you can be generous withit, you can never not have enough of it. - [steve] oh man,that smells good. - [nico] i know. - [steve] want me to breakit up a little bit for you? - [nico] yeah, we'llbreak it up a little bit. - if you guys could smellthis, this is great.
you sure you wantto let this loose? - i mean we could do it bothways, but i'm telling you. - [steve] you want to tellthese people what we're doing. - oh yeah, yeah. i'm in for it. so we've put enough in therefor now, we can always put some more after we make thisstuff and the nice thing about it is the more spiceyou put in there, every single time you putthis in the beef broth,
the better it tastes. - [steve] oh man, itsmells awesome already. - yeah, it's delicious. so, once you have thatgoing, we're gonna take, you get onions, and thentomatoes, those are the main things, and of coursethe tzatziki sauce. you can find tzatzikiin most grocery stores. if they don't knowwhat tzatziki, - [steve] doesn't areal greek buy it at
pick and save? - no, you don't find itat pick and save, but, the next best thing isat pick and save or any grocery that you can find it. if they don't knowwhat tzatziki is, it's cucumber saucefor everyone else. so yeah, we're gonnalet this in here, we're gonna try pull alittle bit apart. - it's getting soft,real soft, look at this.
it's only been lessthan a minute, probably. all right let's theforeman cooking here. you're almost likefamous aren't you? the little white shackthat says nico's gyros. - yeah i've delivereda bunch of county fairs around here. the next county fair isthe walworth county fair. labor day weekend,we'll be doing that. so you guys gotta stop on by.
- so if you pull thisout on christmas morning, will people eatthem on christmas? - oh yeah, they eatthem all year around. breakfast, lunch, dinner. you can always put something. you can always putit on something. - how long do theystay in there? - until it starts bubbling,it's still a little cold here, so we're gonnaheat that up a little more.
- [steve] all right, welcomeback, let's go, let's assemble this bad boy. - [nico] all right so nowyou see the bread softened up (mumbles) so we're gonnatake our meat here. - [steve] look at that. it's hard to believe that'svenison as soft as that is. - [nico] put just enoughon there, a lot of people what they do is put toomuch on the pita, and then the problem isyou can't fold it.
so that's just enough, justenough to be able to fold it. put our onions on there,and you can never have enough onions. - [steve] it's a fact. - [nico] yep, put a coupleof tomatoes on there. - [steve] i'll get anapkin or a paper towel. - [nico] so now the bestpart of it is the tzatziki sauce, we need a tastetester in her, junior. - [junior] i'm coming.
- [steve] oh, you hear that? - [nico] oh, hey. - [steve] the sleepingbear's woke up. - [nico] he smelled gyros. - all right cody, man. hey it's cody, got out ofthe bedroom this morning. open your elbows up, getthe elbows opened up. how is it bud? here, the shotgun willhelp you out here.
- that's really good. - thanks for comingin today, nico. and seriously, what you dowith venison, it took me about five hours forthe meat, and then what did it take, threeminutes, maybe to make this, are you going to comeup for air, or what, bud? - i'm all right. thanks for getting out ofbed to try this for us. appreciate nico forcoming in today.
from the kitchen of theshotgun schafer and nico the gyro, the gyro man. - thank you. (dramatic music) - [narrator] subscribenow to never miss an issue of the badgersportsman magazine. this issue features greenbay packer jeff janis, along with great celebrityprofiles, you'll find everything you need toknow to have fun and
be successfuloutdoors in wisconsin. for availability in yourarea and subscription information check outbadgersportsman.com today. - hey you guys kindof snuck away from us. i see how you guysare, you evinrude guys. brett you got quite thepile of sandwiches there. - yeah, we got well takencare of this morning. we're not goingto go hungry, no. - which is typical whenwe're fishing together.
you know, again, i'mdown to drinking tea. - [brett] it's just not you. - i know it's not me. - i think that's putting badmojo on the boat right now. - and i feel out ofbalance today, too, i can tell you that. you know what i washoping, like sometimes when people are out on theocean, they find all these packages and stuff.
i was thinking maybe on lakeof the woods, all of a sudden, i'd look over and be likea six pack of sun drop floating through the water. - [brett] gotta be the food. - see, right, it was. we started eating, i don'tknow why we waited so long, that's what i wanna know, right? all right, gotta lovethat, i'll tell you that. you know what, i justcaught that small one, and
i'll get him outof the net here. and look how fatthese saugers are. right there. perfect eating fish,i'll tell you that. and if a guy wanted,you could actually just keep sauger outhere, too, right. - yeah, you canhave six saugers. - okay, that's great. gotta love it.
hey, we eat, fish eat, wejust proved it right there. better move the lunchand put him in the box. hey brett, you knowwhat, we better get in and go to therules meeting here. you know we had a greatday out here today, we caught just aton of saugers and a few nice walleyes, andwe had one big one on that, unfortunately, i caught. but you know what, let'stalk a few seconds about
lake of the woods. you were telling me before,i never realized that this is the biggest inlandlake in the country, besides the great lakes. - how many acres is this thing? - it's like a million acres. - a million acres, oh my gosh. and you told me there'ssome outrageous amount of islands on this.
- there's actuallylike 14,552 islands. so it's a massive body of water. - this is absolutely, imean, this is a walleye factory here. - maybe we'll sneak somefishing in tomorrow. - that sounds good. hey, let's pull theselines in, before it gets too late, let's get in. - [narrator] hey brett,what you got on your elbow?
- [brett] oh, look at that. - want one, brett? - [brett] sure. - ha ha, now we're (mumbles) want one brett? - hell no.
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